Most frustrating maneuver

[Clemsons2k]

I refuse to drive barefoot or with sandles. I can't do it. Feels wierd and I can't modulate the clutch properly.

[humjaba]

I wore flipflops while driving once. Back got caught and had that same "OSHT" feeling. Never again. I always drive with shoes on. I'll go out and try heel-toeing it this weekend. I only wear a size 13 but it just seems like I dont have the room to swing my foot around, since I naturally angle my foot such that the ankle is towards the clutch instead of towards the gas.

I think turning will be the maneuver that gives me the most grief at the autox... Depending on track size, my plan is to just leave it in 2nd the whole time heh. 2nd's good to ~65 or so, and I cant believe I'd be hitting much faster than that.

[Hraefn]

SCCA 4.3.4: "Shoes covering the entire foot shall be worn."

Glad to hear you don't wear socks with your sandals

[93redfox]

most difficult maneuver in my car: close tie between accelerating and not understeering.

i have figured out how to twist my foot the right way to heel-toe in my car even tho my gas pedal sits much lower than my brake pedal. i think the only thing ive been unable to do it in is keegan's mg, bc of the pedal placement, my big feet, and the huge ass steering wheel taking up space i need to move my legs.

[straight four]

i wear sandals during the summer, but a lot less now that i ahve to wear work shoes and all that.

I dont get the heel toe thing then, i put my foot up like you would normally for the gas, only its on both the gas and brake (my foot is wide enough) then i roll it for the pressure i need in each direction. I push down if i need more of both.

[Xtopher]

93redfox Wrote:most difficult maneuver in my car: close tie between accelerating and not understeering.

you always make me laugh when you rip on you own car


my hardest challenge is not grinding 5th gear.

[93redfox]

Xtopher Wrote:

93redfox Wrote:most difficult maneuver in my car: close tie between accelerating and not understeering.

you always make me laugh when you rip on you own car


my hardest challenge is not grinding 5th gear.

well, its the honest truth, several aspects of my car suck, but i will fix them if its the last thing i do! not really worth it to sell it, and it was my first car, so im just gonna either run it into the ground or fix it up and make it the way it should have been

[humjaba]

2.3 turbo accelerating can be tricky in my car, but i'm guessing oversteer will be my problem at the autox. i haven't driven it hard enough in the twisties to really know how it acts. we'll see.

[fiveo]

In both my 94' cobra and 89' LX, the pedals are far apart, but heal toe is quite easy. It requires finess and technique. Usually not the pedals being too far apart. Sometimes you just have to be braking hard enough for the brake and accelerator to be on the same horizontal level........some people's ankle might not be able to reach otherwise.

Tell you what helps. Go to Frankie's. Go play the simulator, Ferrari Challenge. That game single handidly taught me how to heal toe and double clutch......no joke. I can do each without you even feeling it riding shotgun. Left foot brake is hard to get used to unless you do a lot of track days or rally driving. I've finally gotten used to it and it really can save seconds on track or autox if done properly especially if you drive a turbo car.....you can brake boost.

As far as most difficult move.........I'd have to say scandinavian flick. I've tried it a few times and always come up slower......I guess its a rally thing.

[Theodore]

Scandanvian Flick... haven't heard that in a while! I watched rally drivers do that when I was younger and I was just in awe. It doesn't fit everywhere but on some special turns, it's a jewel.

Because I spent the first half of my career as an Industrial Engineer, I was always fascinated with Time, Motion and measurement. I did lay out of job responsibilities for 130 employees on a plant that had not been built yet.. all based on MTM and estimations. When I stated running dirt track, I found out that MANY dirt racers will come up to the turn, JUMP on the brake and then as the wheels begin to break traction swing the wheel to the left ...allowing them to enter the turn with the car sideways and accelerating through all the way through the turn. They called it "setting the suspension".

After studying it and really looking close at what it does... the dirt racers were doing the same thing as a rally driver doing the "flick" ... just with out the wasted motion. The "flick" allows you to break traction at a pre-determined point and then steer a wider angle back to set the body angle into the turn. It takes some practice to get the body angle to stay at t he point you want it to as it is pretty violently coming at that magic point. The dirt tracker does the same thing by breaking traction with the brakes and only having to deal with a smaller turning arc to get the angle of attack for the corner.

Smaller amount of steering means easier to manuever and control with precision ... so... while the flick is cool as heck to watch... from an IE standpoint, there's an easier way to get break of traction and control body posistion going into the turn. Try it.. BTW... it works best on dirt. Just my opinion...I could be wrong.

[clemsonhatch]

fiveo Wrote:Left foot brake is hard to get used to unless you do a lot of track days or rally driving. I've finally gotten used to it and it really can save seconds on track or autox if done properly especially if you drive a turbo car.....you can brake boost.

I don't left foot brake in cars. I wouldn't say it can save you seconds auto-xing or on track. It's a touchy skill and I'm faster without it.

If you are in control of the car, hit your breaking points, are on line and accelerate out of the turn that will save seconds.

[clemsonhatch]

Theodore Wrote:Scandanvian Flick... haven't heard that in a while! I watched rally drivers do that when I was younger and I was just in awe. It doesn't fit everywhere but on some special turns, it's a jewel.

I was riding with the Peruvian National rally champ testing a new set of Ohlins tarmac suspension. Let me tell you he can do anything with that Evo it was a pleasure to watch him drive. The track we were at had a downhill a little off camber section of turns that he would Scandanvian Flick at high speed

[humjaba]

Never heard it called a scandanavian flick... I do that all the time on our atv and i've done it in my geo on gravel a couple times just for fun

[Hraefn]

clemsonhatch Wrote:If you are in control of the car, hit your breaking points, are on line and accelerate out of the turn that will save seconds.

Trust me there are a lot more things that I need to work on before really messing with left-foot braking.

:beer:

[kbrew8991]

still working on this whole "passing" thing.

you can watch all the race craft stuff you want to get ideas but it still takes alot of practice to pull it off