Brake pad suggestions?

[Chaser350Z]

Xtopher Wrote:

kbrew8991 Wrote:"hard parker" is the slang term for the crowd that just street races and then parks across 5 spots in front of Best Buy with their lambo doors up and hatch open blasting techno and it was a joke. Serious Chris is serious!! I'll make a mental joke to never tease you again then.

lol.......tease away. I really dont care. Thats a funny term. You can rip on me all you want but when it comes time to make a valid argument/point please keep it cordial.

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Just fyi ken, i dont street race. Ive never done a 3 honk run, organized a race, videotaped a race, road along in a race ect ect
Sure, ive had my run on the road in illegal manners, just not a street racer. Most anyone will tell you im a bish when it comes to breaking the law nowadays. Plus im not into the whole my car is faster then yours or feel the need to prove it.

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kbrew8991 Wrote:Bedding procedures vary drastically across mfgs, but the general idea is to get some heat cycles through the system. You can do this many different ways successfully.

wheres the pros/ME's to discuss the proper heat cycle.

Not trying to get into this so leave me out but just to credit Chris's statement, he has never raced or even talked about racing anyone. Ive heard several occasions where he has turned down someone who asked to race him.

Cant we all just be friends

[F1james]

awesome thread.

[Dnealy]

wow i just saw a link to this thread on a different website and this just goes to show the reason i dont come on here anymore. Its all grey if it involves a turn of some sort...........(As he goes outside to thro cones in the drive way to miss on the way out so he can TRY to fit in)


haha wow chris its a never ending case, i tried and no one ever listened.

[kbrew8991]

Dnealy Wrote:wow i just saw a link to this thread on a different website and this just goes to show the reason i dont come on here anymore. Its all grey if it involves a turn of some sort...........(As he goes outside to thro cones in the drive way to miss on the way out so he can TRY to fit in)


haha wow chris its a never ending case, i tried and no one ever listened.

did I studder in my post? jesus... Stay gone if you really are that retarded

If anyone wants to re-mod me to take care of this stuff, please do so

[Dnealy]

wow ken you dont learn from the pms just how much i dont care for you do you.

Oh and why can you make cheaky comments but no one else. haha is that even more bias? I wonder i wonder.

[kbrew8991]

I don't give a flying fuck if people make cheeky comments, blatant trolling is another thing all together. And I think I could care less about what you think, but it'd require some effort.. not sure if its worth it

btw - I am ON YOUR SIDE on this issue. Keep coming after me like I'm not if it makes you feel better though asshat. I've been working with Ross to come up with some ideas to expand what people do besides just autocross, been on Chris's side (though not fully) on this thread, etc.

Yup, its official - you are too stupid to post here if you don't get that. Cya

[Dnealy]

Upp there you go with a blantant attack on me, lets see if you get banned. haha nope you wont. and ken, theres no side to be on my man. That arguement was over along ago for me man. you need to simmer down and take how was that you sent me in the pm chillax i believe.


I would perfer in the future if you did not reply to any comment i may make as i will not reply to any of the ones you make. Since you seem to have the golden horse shoe up your anal cavity im gonna take the high road here. You can cuss at people and make personal attacks at people on here with no regard for the rules you seem to be working with ross on. Im not gonna lower myself to your immature level again. I come on here and let little things like this bs get to me and makes me come off as a complete jerk when i make a response to some "cheacky comment" you make. I normally would resort to making a scene and being a public ass but not anymore. No one on this forum is worth that. wow took me a long time to realize that ahah wow i was retarded.


I am saying openly that i no longer care what is discussed on here. Chris i suggest you do the same. You live with one of them for gods sake you know its a futal attempt so why try? I mean i would love to have equality but it will never happen. Although, i do appreciate someone else opening there eyes to the things i pointed out A LONG TIME AGO.


Now would some one PLEASE get back to the freakin brake discussion since no one but ken is allowed to make "cheaky" comments without getting cussed out and bashed openly on a public forum with no "punishment" from the mods because hes been around forever.

[kbrew8991]

when you can't beat em (or take it) cry to the mods. Great strategy its been a 2 way street here, maybe I should try that tactic...

[Dnealy]

Like said openly on here and in the pm you just sent me, stop trying to even get a rise. I would rather talk on here than deal with yours(and others bs) just leave it alone man, dont pm me with some bs ? and just let it go man. Im not crying to the mods. I could are less if you cant tell by the way im talking. But for the record you brought the mod comment out first.

Have a good day, well night now.

[kbrew8991]

oh, the one where you basically said "say it to my face" ok, got it, consider it dropped (/out)

[Dnealy]

Little out on text man but whatever makes it work. haha thank you now back to the regular programming..............



Why not just get some basic brakes? Can just a basic set of brakes not be decent enough for all around use? I mean i know people who just use regular ceramic brakes from the autoparts store and have not problems stopping, have fun cruising around in the moutains, but i dont know about a track situation.

[bwl101]

I have ceramic pads myself from R1 Concepts... low noise and work pretty good... and they hold up well for a whole night of drag racing and the trip on I85... and you know people don't get over so the brakes are used quite often...

[kbrew8991]

(non cheeky comment warning not that I feel like anything I said earlier was, but this below could in no way be construed as such )

It all depends on the car really... lots of factors to consider
tires
power/acceleration
weight
driving style
and of course the components and design of the system

more grip - brakes can work harder before lockup to create full decelration
more power/acceleration - more speed to bleed off
weight - more momentumn to bleed off
driving style - goes without saying, some guys are just harder on the middle pedal
design - some systems are better shedding heat, some are sized better than others for the application, etc

in each of those cases you're talking about more heat going into the system, and more heat either starts to boil the fluid - pedal goes soft, or puts the pads outside of the range where they can really work properly - pedal stays firm but the car doesn't really slow down

Mtns, well, you're probably breaking the law or close to it in a sports car if you need more than OEM. Not that I haven't done it, but you know it is wrong...

Track goes without saying, with your 'vette for instance at Road Atlanta is capable in the right hands as it sits on street tires to do ~140-145 down the back stretch, high 130s on the front stretch, and prob ~120-125 going into T6. Each of those corners would require significant braking, and with not all that much time between those areas (prob on the order of 15-30 secs), there isn't much time to dissipate the heat. You'll want fluid and a pad material that can safely perform at those operation temps.

I wouldn't try the parts store ceramics for track... only one case I can think of it would be fine - on the back of a FWD car. Since those brakes don't really do much and going with an aggressive compound just leads to lockup and/or inability to get heat into them to get them working in their sweet spot temperature-wise. Something like the Corvette or the Evo with the horsepower, weight, and speed it should carry you'd likely cook the parts store stuff by the first lap, and the sessions are at least 20 mins long... not good.

hope that explains it further

[bwl101]

Thanks for the info Ken...