(08-10-2010 07:31 AM)straight four Wrote: [ -> ]thats a structural member of the car. Take it elsewhere. There is no way in hell you should accept them cutting into the structural cage of the car as feasible.
also retreads weigh 30+ lbs, if your moving at 70 mph thats a LOT of force.
^ Agreed. Truck tires have massive steel belting and tread far beyond passenger cars since they are designed to go hundreds of thousands of miles. I also would be hesitant to cut into that area. The frame of the windshield in most cars is part of the the crash structure that hold the passenger compartment together. Any cutting into that could cause buckling
(08-12-2010 07:56 AM)soccerbummer1104 Wrote: [ -> ]well image collision repair is a good shop, but id get a second opinion on that. talk to another shop or possibly someone at a honda dealer (one of the service techs.. they usually at least would know if it is a separate pannel) we had out civic repair there though when my dad backed it into the boat and they did a great job, but then again thats not repairing a c-pillar. we were referred there by our family mechanic though
oh, and when you go to get your car, makesure to stop by thai taste just down the street, its freakin awesome.
id say get the meat combination fried rice... you'll be in heaven
a service technician won't know, they don't do body work.
a parts person will know more about the panel being separate pieces.
they might have a body shop at the dealership, that'd be the person(s) to speak to (or find out what shop they use).
(08-12-2010 05:33 PM)dave99rt Wrote: [ -> ] (08-12-2010 07:56 AM)soccerbummer1104 Wrote: [ -> ]well image collision repair is a good shop, but id get a second opinion on that. talk to another shop or possibly someone at a honda dealer (one of the service techs.. they usually at least would know if it is a separate pannel) we had out civic repair there though when my dad backed it into the boat and they did a great job, but then again thats not repairing a c-pillar. we were referred there by our family mechanic though
oh, and when you go to get your car, makesure to stop by thai taste just down the street, its freakin awesome.
id say get the meat combination fried rice... you'll be in heaven
a service technician won't know, they don't do body work.
a parts person will know more about the panel being separate pieces.
they might have a body shop at the dealership, that'd be the person(s) to speak to (or find out what shop they use).
parts counter guys don't know jack squat from my experience. they get the cheapest labor with 10 fingers to punch in what the customer asks for.
i imagine you could get some info from guys on an ep hatch message board...
good luck. keep us posted.
The guys on ephatch weren't really helpful in a technical sense. But there wasn't any damage to the frame around the windshield as far as I could tell.
Also, they called today and said it should be finished tomorrow.
Dave I can't believe you waste electrons trying to respond to that soccer dude
no offense
(08-12-2010 06:40 PM)humjaba Wrote: [ -> ]parts counter guys don't know jack squat from my experience. they get the cheapest labor with 10 fingers to punch in what the customer asks for.
i imagine you could get some info from guys on an ep hatch message board...
good luck. keep us posted.
i understand your experience, especially if it was a small, POS dealers in SC.
overall, you couldn't be farther from the truth.
yes, most parts deparments have a cheapie hourly employee or 2.
even then, the service techs rarely look at a diagram for body panels.
the rest of the employees are usually parts counter/sales employees that make anywhere from $35k to $75k per year.
go to a huge dealership, and the parts department will gross $100k-$200k per month.
medium to small dealerships will gross $35k-$100k.
each employee will individually gross $15k-$50k each and get paid anywhere from 4-8% plus an annual salary ranging from $15k to $30k, the commission is usually stair-stepped.
some of them pay you on the full department gross, and you get paid anywhere from 1-6% depending on size of the dealership/department.
considering the job market, most of you sports car club people probably wouldn't mind having a parts sales position out of college.
they pay more than almost all entry level positions.
(08-14-2010 06:07 PM)dave99rt Wrote: [ -> ] (08-12-2010 06:40 PM)humjaba Wrote: [ -> ]parts counter guys don't know jack squat from my experience. they get the cheapest labor with 10 fingers to punch in what the customer asks for.
i imagine you could get some info from guys on an ep hatch message board...
good luck. keep us posted.
i understand your experience, especially if it was a small, POS dealers in SC.
overall, you couldn't be farther from the truth.
yes, most parts deparments have a cheapie hourly employee or 2.
even then, the service techs rarely look at a diagram for body panels.
the rest of the employees are usually parts counter/sales employees that make anywhere from $35k to $75k per year.
go to a huge dealership, and the parts department will gross $100k-$200k per month.
medium to small dealerships will gross $35k-$100k.
each employee will individually gross $15k-$50k each and get paid anywhere from 4-8% plus an annual salary ranging from $15k to $30k, the commission is usually stair-stepped.
some of them pay you on the full department gross, and you get paid anywhere from 1-6% depending on size of the dealership/department.
considering the job market, most of you sports car club people probably wouldn't mind having a parts sales position out of college.
they pay more than almost all entry level positions.
I was at a large Mazda dealership in central california. The only mazda dealership in miles and the two people they had working the parts counter knew nothing. The manager of the service/parts department (same) thought it would take 2 hours to replace the airbag controller on my miata, the process for which involved removing the entire dash. The technician put the car back together without hooking up my speakers, cruise control or air recirc.
If any of them are making more than minimum wage, they certainly don't deserve it.
doesn't take a rocket scientist to pull a parts diagram of the affected area
i gotcha.
i guess it falls under the "it's hard to find good help" motto.
typically big dealerships have retail and wholesale/commercial parts employees.
retail is the small side of the parts department.
majority if their income is wholesale and warranty work.
so you can imagine some of the retards that work the retail counter.
then again, you can also get them in commercial.
Well, I got the car back today. Everything looks ok. They even gave the interior a decent detailing, which it needed pretty bad anyway.